Insurance Quotes

2010 / 2011 Insurance Costs:

 

1.)  The total cost of the 2010/2011 Nationwide Premium is $6, 062 and

there are no additional finance charges or any other kind of cost uplift.

 

2.) This policy has the same coverage as the 2009/2010:

           -Comparable Director liability coverage that includes board member law suit coverage.

           -Buildings are insured for the proper amount;  full (Functional) replacement costs

                -2009 Replacement value - Bldg 1 = 1,440,815 and Bldg 2 = 1,234,569

           -No water/sewer damage cost caps

 

Slight Cost Increase, for 2009 comparable policy

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$6, 062 - 2009/2010 - Nationwide. Premium

$ 6,151 -2010/2011 - Nationwide. Premium

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         $89 - Increase over last year

 

 

2009 / 2010 Insurance Costs:

 

Insurance costs:

Dave Schramm Marketplace Insurance Center

04/09/09 Nationwide = $6,062.00    <-- 2009/2010 fiscal budget costs

     -Last year Nationwide $6,038.00  

   -It was discussed the cost of insurance is no longer going to go down and will probably have an annual increase of 4-6%

   -04/09/09 board approved staying with Dave Schramm and Nationwide

 

PROS:

-Been with them for awhile now, knows our good/continued history

-Dave has been good to work with and responsive

-Nationwide covers the majority of the Condo Assoc. in Burlington area

-Village has been through several inspections with Nationwide and we have

address all their concerns -No inspection needed for this year to renewal

-No $100k cap on water damage claim

-Policy does cover damage caused by sewer and drain backup, others have limited coverage

 

Summary of 2009 / 2010 Insurance Bids:

 

Dave Schramm Marketplace Insurance Center

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Union Mutual of Vermont Companies = $5,951

 

Nationwide = $6,062.00

     -Last year Nationwide $6,038.00 

 

Dave also can quote polices for carrier Travelers

Travelers indicated were not eligible due to the age of the building and

the proximity to the ski area (concern over units being rented on a short

term basis). 

 

 Nick Bergeron of Berg, Carmolli and Kent, Inc

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Travelers =  $5,307,  probably additional cost for additional cap on water

damage Total $5,390????

     -Last year -Travelers    $5,931.00 = $5,848 + $83  - Water/Sewer

damage $100k cap

 

 

2008/2009 Nationwide Quote

 

01/17/08

The Village board unanimously agreed to renew with Mullen Financial Services with Nationwide.

This decision is base on, competitive premium cost, our history with Dave, inspection criteria, and better coverage.

 

We have completed our evaluation of Village Insurance quote between "David Schramm of Mullen Financial Services with carrier Nationwide" and "Nick Bergeron of Berg, Carmolli and Kent, Inc.with carrier Travelers".

 

Nationwide premium is ~$107 more that Nick Bergeron of Berg, Carmolli and Kent, Inc.and carrier Travalers. About the only significant difference in these policies is Travelers has $100k cap on water and sewer damage, Nationwide does not have a cap on water and sewer damage. With our units build one on top of one another I believe this is notable risk for our complexes, as quantified by the following Village claims where the majority of the repair cost was water damage.

 

   05/16/03 Fire Damage = $59,231.88

   03/19/04 Frozen Sprinkler System Repair = $6,784.20

 

Summary:

David Schramm of Mullen Financial Services with carrier Nationwide

Nick Bergeron of Berg, Carmolli and Kent, Inc.with carrier Travalers

 

Nationwide $6,038.00  

Travelers    $5,931.00 = $5,848 + $83  - Water/Sewer damage $100k cap

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Delta             $107

 

Dave Schramm with carrier Nationwide

PROS:

   -Been with them for awhile now, knows our good/continued history

   -Dave has been good to work with and responsive

   -Nationwide covers the majority of the Condo Assoc. in Burlington area

   -Village has been through several inspections with Nationwide and we have address all their concerns

   -Not requiring a second means of egress

   -No inspection needed for this year to renewal

   -No $100k cap on water damage claim

   -Policy does cover damage caused by sewer and drain backup

 

 

2007/2008 Nationwide Quote

 

03/15/07

Hi Folks, our Village Master insurance policy is up for renewal in March.

 

The Village board unanimously agreed to renew with Mullen Financial Services with Nationwide. This is decision is base on, least costly premium, our history with Dave, inspection criteria, and a little better coverage. This year we have cost saving of 36% or $4,495. Pls see details in the summary section below.

 

Insurance expenditures are a large portion of your annual Insurance/Assoc. fees.  As a cost saving measure, our Assoc. annually solicits several agents for a more cost effective master insurance policy to cover, common areas, exterior/structure and infrastructure of our Village complexes, please note this does not cover your unit or its contents.

 

Last years premium with David Schramm of Mullen Financial Services and Nationwide was $12,352.00. This year's solicitations came down to two viable options, Cool Insurance Agent and our current policy holder Mullen Financial Services.

 

1.) Jack Beniac of Cool Agency with carrier Middlesex Mutual

   -03/08/07 provided a quote with total premium cost of $8,024

 

2.) David Schramm of Mullen Financial Services with carrier Nationwide

    -03/01/07 Initial quote provided $12,676.00

    -03/13/0 Re-quote provided with total premium cost of $7,857.00

 

 

Summary:

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1.) Cool Agency with carrier Middlesex Mutual

PROS:

   -Much better initial premium cost with about the same coverage

   -Could be an additional $1.5k saving next year, if accepted and no losses

   -Guaranteed Functional Replacement Cost, which no one else offers

   -Middlesex Mutual does cover other Assoc. in the area

   -Wentworth II & III are using Middlesex Mutual

 

CONS:

   -Cool agency has not been responsive until Village owner Terese Ayer got involved

   -Cool agency initially indicated they do not do condo insurance, causing delays

   -Quote has contingences on receipts, review and acceptance, which is the inspection criteria

   -The discussion of second means of egress has not come up yet

   -Policy does not cover for water damage cause by water running for more than 14 days

   -Policy does not cover damage caused by sewer and drain backup

 

 

2.) Dave Schramm with carrier Nationwide

PROS:

   -Been with them for awhile now, knows our good/continued history

   -Dave has been good to work with and responsive

   -Nationwide covers the majority of the Condo Assoc. in Burlington area

   -Village has been through several inspections with Nationwide and we have address all their concerns

   -Not requiring a second means of egress

   -No inspection needed for this year to renewal

   -Policy does cover for water damage cause by water running for more than 14 days

   -Policy does cover damage caused by sewer and drain backup

 

CONS:

   -Appears we could have gotten a better premium quote than what was initially offered

   -Re-quote was base on no claims in three years and going above an beyond to mitigate claim risk

   -Does not offer the functional replacement cost, but is addressed with the 20% rider

 

 

Additional Details:

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Both policies include Director/Property Agent liability coverage.

 

The Cool Agency quote was sent to Dave Schramm, on 03/12/07, for validation of same coverage and chance to respond on cost. Dave Schramm explained on 03/14/07 that there are multiple branches of Nationwide depending on what the client is eligible for. Village Assoc. was not eligible for less costly insurance branch until next year, if we remain claim free. Dave was able successful present a business case to Nationwide that Village has been on the books for awhile now with no claims and got us the less costly rate a year early. Kurt Ries also made the promise he is doing everything in his means to continue to mitigate insurance claim risk, and reiterated our Village Insurance claim mitigation initiatives.

 

Dave Schramm explained that Middlesex Mutual and Nationwide policies are close to the same coverage, Nationwide is covering a little more, see details in summary section. Dave also offered an explanation that if the buildings are insured for the proper amount, which Village is, full (Functional) replacement costs is not an issue. In addition, given that two separate companies, independently of each other, came up with about the same building replacement costs, is a very good indication the valued replacement cost of our Village complexes is correct; $2.2 Million for Nationwide and $2.3 Million for Middlesex Mutual.

 

As always, you can find this and all the latest Association information at our Village web site.

 

http://users.adelphia.net/~kries

   -Password is 'garth'

 

 

I would like to thank our Property Agent, Joe Boylan, for continuing to go above and beyond the call of duty to save us all money, this is just one example of many this fiscal year. I would like to thank the board for putting in place our insurance claim mitigation policies, soliciting and analyzing agents quotes that directly contributed to lowering our insurance premiums for the last three years. A special thanks to Terese Ayer for this years solicitation of Cool agency and procuring and extremely cost effective premium rate, forcing the other agencies to rethink their original quotes.

 

And to you the owners for supporting and participating in our Assoc. decision making process,

   -Kurt

 

Kurt Ries

Village Assoc. Director

email:        itele2@yahoo.com

 

 

2004/2005 Nationwide Quote

Village Insurance Quote Summary 
3/10/2004 

Insurance

Rating

Type

Coverage

Deductible

Cost Prop/Liab

 

Page CampbellLloyd's of London

A

Assc. Prop

1,770,000

2,500

11,113.60

 

Penn America Insurance Co.

A

Prop Liability

1,000,000

 

1,511.57

 

VT Mutual

 

Direc Liability

 

 

879.43

 

 

 

 

 

Total

13,504.60

and Campbell down payment, 25% down + D&O coverage 
   $4,114.43

Insurance

Rating

Type

Coverage

Deductible

Cost Prop/Liab

 

NationwideFirst Specialty Ins

A+

Assc. Prop

 

500

9,435

 

 First Specialty Ins

A+

Prop Liability

 

 

1,704

 

  US Liability Ins Group

 

Direc Liability

 

 

950 

 

 

 

 

 

Total

12,089

down payment, Direc Liability will be rolled in
   $3,243

Details on Finances:

$13,023.17 total premiums

$ 3,630.79 downpay

$ 9,392.38 amount financed

$ 602.39 finance charge

$ 9,994.77 total of payments - 9 installments of $1,110.53

 

Insurance

Rating

Type

Coverage

Deductible

Cost Prop/Liab

 

Essex AgencyPenn America

 

Assc. Prop

 

 

24,389.12

 

 S&H Underwriter

 

Assc. Prop

 

 

 

 

  Berkeley

 

Assc. Prop

 

 

 

 

 Century Insurance

 

Assc. Prop

 

5,000

17,420.78

 

  

 

 

 

 Total

 N/A

 

2004/2005 Nationwide Quote

 

 

Page and Campbell Quote:

 

 

Solicited Insurance Quotes 03/10/04 Minutes/Status:

Dana, Dave, Joe K, Steve and Joe B-
Current status of Village Insurance quotes, comments/suggestions encouraged.
-Kurt

General Questions to the various Agents

Questions:
1.) Is the Director & Officer Liability quote a renewal of the existing Mount Vernon Fire Insurance Company, ie, same coverage

2.) Are the building being insured for 100% or do the owner policy need to cover the cost of replacement for Sheetrock out, in the event of a total loss

3.) Should the building be insured for 100% given the owners are responsible for covering the interior of their units, ie can the premium be reduced

4.) Does the policy have coverage in the event a Management Agent illegally appropriating funds from the Association

5.) Is the Village Ins quote Actual Cash Value or Replacement cost?

6.) Village needs to stay clean for how long?
          -Generally 3 year without a claim

7.) Recommendations for By-Laws updates
          -None of the agents thought it was a major issue
          -Village does use an By-Laws based on an older set of standards, there is a newer standards available

8.) Arcadia Claim, for Fire Sprinkler and Unit damage
          -Village received a invoice from FireTech
         -03/10/04 Page
Campbell said for Kurt to Fax to Joe Modugno, Arcadia adjuster

9.) Lloyd's
London / Penn America ins / First Specialty Ins.
         -What are they rated?

10.) Is Village in danger of not having insurance in place before the current policy expirers on
03/15/04
        -No

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Paige and Campbell
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Paige and Campbell Inc. 
5197 Main St. Suite 3 
Waitsfield, VT 05673-7328
Jim Hendershot
Judi Buczkowski jbpaige@wcvt.com -Commercial Accounts
802-496-3118, 1-800-501-7355, Fax-802-496-6255

Status Paige and Campbell Inc. 
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Dana and Steve Mcleod following up with Jim Hendershot
Steve to call Hendershot 02/04/04
02/27/04, Hendershot not returned any calls for Dana or Steve M
02/27/04, received property quote, $11, 113
03/01/04, Kurt spoke w/ Page and Campbel, will not be able to get details until Hendershot returns from vacation 03/10/04
03/04/04, Kurt spoke w/ Page and Campbel, OK to discuss w/ Hendershot on 03/10/04 and still get down payment in on time

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Essex Agency
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Jeffrey Lyon, Account Executive
The Essex Agency Inc.
PO Box 239
Essex Junction, VT 05453-0239
802-878-5334 ext 112
email address: jeff@essexagency.com

Status Essex Agency:
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Kurt working with Essex Agency
All forms completed and faxed to Jeff for quotes on 02/05/04
02/13/04, Jeff pursuing 3 brokers, Penamerca quote came in at $24,389.12, however from soliciting these types of quotes in the past expects the S&H Underwriter and Berkeley quotes to be less. Jeff following up on S&H and Berkeley.
03/03/04, Century Insurance quote $17, 427, $5,000 deductible, Replacement cost
03/05/04, Jeff pursuing brokers for quotes today that we expect to come in lower 
03/10/04 does not look like the additional quotes are going to make it in on time
03/10/04 Jeff mentioned he went to the same Ins broker also, surprised Page Campbell has such a low quote

thx - Ron Bouffard
S&H Underwriters
802-229-5660
fax: 802-229-5669
www.sh-underwriters.com

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Hickok & Boardman, Inc.
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Hickok & Boardman, Inc.
346 Shelburne Road
PO Box 1064
Burlington, VT 05402-1064
(802) 658-3500 (phone)
(800) 639-1655 (toll free)
(802) 658-0541 (fax)
www.hbinsurance.com

Tammy Lawrey, CPIW
Account Executive
Hickok & Boardman, Inc.
"Lawrey, Tammy" <tlawrey@hbinsurance.com>

Status Hickok & Boardman, Inc.
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Kurt working with Hickok & Boardman
Forms completed and faxed to Tammy for quotes on 02/05/04
Tammy cannot pursue further until we sign Broker of Record statement indicating Hickok & Boardman, Inc. are the sole agent representing Village Assoc.
02/06/04, Dana and Kurt discussed the Broker of Record statement and decided not to sign until we have an indication of what the quotes are from the other agents

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Nationwide
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Nationwide Ins. 
595 Dorset St. 
South Burlington Vt 
Atten. Dave Schram <schrand@nationwide.com>
1-877-863-9914
Fax 802-863-9918

Status Nationwide:
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Joe Boylan pursuing Nationwide
Forms completed and faxed for quotes on 01/21/04
02/12/04, Joe B spoke to agent, expecting quote this week
02/24/04 Dave S mentioned quotes probably not going to ready until 03/08/04
03/09/04 Joe and Kurt spoke w/ Dave we have quote for 11,773 that includes prop coverage and Liability

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Bryan, Holmes & White Agency
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Prospective contacts:
Ted Lambert at Poulous Insurance in 
Morrisville?

Donna Bryan of Bryan, Holmes & White Agency - Rochester, VT

Status Bryan, Holmes & White 
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Steve M awaiting to hear from directors on whether to contact or not
02/12/04, Dana and Kurt discussed, because Agents want a BOR Statement signed giving exclusive rights to the Agent to represent Assoc., and the same broker are being solicited by Agents currently engaged we are holding on bring in additional agents

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Please do not hesitate to contact me with any questions or concerns,
-Kurt

Kurt Ries