Village Propane Heating Costs

 

 

Date: Monday, June 23, 2008, 8:30 PM

 

 

Hi folks,  Dave Parot has pursued pricing for our Village complex Propane heat cost.

 

Per the 06/11/08 memo Blue Flame sent to all Village owners with a fixed pricing of $2.70 per gallon, with exceptions noted in memo, is the best pricing we are going to get from Blue Flame. I am signing up for this fixed pricing, before the 07/01/08 deadline.

 

As alternatives to lowering your heating cost, all the Associations on the mountain are investigating a propane coop, where the Assoc. buy the our buildings propane infrastructure from Blue Flame, there by allowing the Associations to negotiate a group bulk rate and solicit multiple vendors for pricing. There are many open questions with this approach and will not be coming to fruition any time soon. As an example Black Bear Inn is purchasing propane from Bournes at $2.33. We currently only have the option to purchase from Blue Flame, same as most of the Assoc. on the mountain.

 

Details of the propane coop initiatives are posted on the Village/Presidents web site and will be discussed at annual meeting this Saturday.  

 

https://home.comcast.net/~itele2/

 

In the mean time I would encourage folks to take advantage of the Blue Flame offer before the 07/01/08 deadline.

Thx

 -Kurt

 

Kurt Ries

 

 

 

 

07/27/2006 05:05 PM

 

Hi Folks, spoke to Manny of Blue Flame today 07/26/06  in regards to the  07/05/06 memo Village owners received to contact them about PREBUY and CAP pricing for the up coming heating season.

 

Village, Wentworth, Courtside I & II and Bear Run Condos are all at fixed pricing of $1.95 per gallon until end of June/July 2007. Bolton Valley

condo owners do not necessarily need to contact Blue Flame to negotiate/PreBuy pricing.

 

Additional Info:

Cost is up an avg .20 .- 25 gal from last season, Village cost last heating season was $1.80 gal.    -Blue Flame purchases gas in June and the

cost at that time determines end user cost per gal for the next heating season

    -Bolton Valley Condo Associations are get a bulk rate that is less than the PreBuy rates

    -Blue Flame is not anticipating any supply issues

 

Village units use an avg of 200 - 400 gals a heating season

Current Blue Flame Prebuy pricing is as follows:

   -400 gals - $2.79

   -500 - 700 gals - $2.19

   -1000 gals - $2.14

 

Contact Info:

   Blue Flame Gas

   P.O Box 599

   Waterbury, VT 05676

   802-244-1811

   866-837-1959

 

thx

   -Kurt

 

Kurt Ries

 

 

2005

 

In regards to the Blue Flame propane pricing for Village Condominiums, pls find below Blue Flame postal mailed memo we received around 06/22/05.

Prices have gone up $1.49 to $1.80, for folks with locked in pricing last year.

 

For future reference this information is posted to our Village Web site

 

   http://users.adelphia.net/~kries/

      Password 'garth'

 

Some Assoc. are reporting they have $1.51 locked in rate. There are several options including Propane Coop that show good potential in lowering our heating cost, however for Village, the board is unable to find resources for a committee to explore lower pricing for our owners, as we have done in past years.

 

Thx

   -Kurt

 

 

Received 06/22/05

 

Blue Flame Gas

P.O. Box 599

Waterbury, VT 05676

 

KURT RIES

127 HARDY AVE

BURLINGTON,VT 05401

 

 

Dear Valued Customer:

 

If you are receiving this letter it is due to the fact that you are on special pricing with Blue Flame Gas. Because of your excellent record with our company we have been more than happy to keep your price stabilized by keeping you at a fixed rate price. We are going to keep you on a fixed rate price schedule for the upcoming 2005-2006 heating season, however due to conditions beyond our control the price will be at a slightly higher rate.

 

The price of propane (our cost) has risen over $0.30 from the price a year ago. The market for petroleum prices is very unstable and the futures market is like a roller coaster ride. Anyone who drives a car and has watched gas prices skyrocket can certainly appreciate these concerns.

 

Our cost of operation has also gone up this year largely due to the fact that our delivery vehicles use diesel fuel to operate, and the cost of diesel fuel has risen over $0.70 in the past year. Also due to new laws our employees have to go thru special training and even finger printing at a large cost to us to comply with government programs such as the Patriot Act.

 

You have been locked in at the price of $1.49 per gallon for the past year. Due to increases to fuel and cost of operation we will need to raise your price to a rate of

$1.80 for the 2005-2006 season.

 

As with all special pricing, no other discounts apply. All accounts on special pricing need to remain current (paid within 30 days). Any account considered past due would revert to normal pricing.

 

Respectfully yours, Blue Flame Gas

 

           

08/26/2004 11:21 AM         

To: Village Owners

From: Kurt Ries/Burlington/IBM@IBMUS

Subject: Village Condo Blue Flame Propane Fixed Pricing

 

Hi Folks, Dave Parot, one our Village Association directors has solicited a very good fixed price for Village Condominium owners heating with Blue Flame propane.

 

I spoke with Tom of Blue Flame on 08/26/04 and he insures us the Village owners do not need to contact Blue Flame to get the negotiated fixed price rate and all 18 of our unit owners heating with propane are already enrolled in the program. Be certain to double check your next Blue Flame Propane bill and insure the cost per gallon is no more than $1.499.

 

Below is a transcribed fax that Dave Parot solicited from Blue Flame, I added Blue Flame's phone number to the fax header info.

 

 

Blue Flame Gas

P.O. Box 599

Waterbury, VT 05676

802-244-1811

 

08/13/04

 

David Parot

127 Sportsclub Dr.

Unit # 124

Bolton Valley, VT 05477

 

David:

Blue Flame Gas will again this year offer the Village Condominium Association the fixed price of $1.499 per gallon for the 2004-2005 heating season. We ask that all members make sure there account with Blue Flame Gas be kept at a current status (paid within 30 days). As this is special pricing we reserve the right to change any account that becomes past due (over 30 days), to the current market price for the gallons used annually by that customer.

 

Yours truly

 

Blue Flame Gas

 

 

 

2004

 

Propane Coop:

We have been attempting to drive the Bolton Valley Propane Coop concept with the Association President council, but our initial reaction is, unless we pick up the task ourselves its not going to happen any time soon.

 

Heating with Propane versus Electric:

If you are still heating with electric, we strongly recommend you contact Blue Flame at 802-244-1811 and get the Rinnae style heater installed in your unit; even for weekenders this is a noticeable cost savings to heat your unit.

 

   http://www.blueflamegas.net/index.asp

 

The following is actual cost for Dana's Village condo 3 bedroom ground floor unit, compare this to your electric bill and give Blue Flame a call.

 

Ground level Rinnae heater no electric backup used

2002-2003      625 gals. X $1.499 = $906

    -good est. for working person who turns heat down during the day

 

   2003-2004 750 gals. X $1.499 = $1,086

       -someone in the house during the day

 

Dave once again, thanks for saving us all some cash!

   -Kurt

 

Kurt Ries

Village Director

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